01.15.09

1 Corinthians 14

Posted in Women in Ministry at 3:36 pm by Administrator

Let’s continue looking at what Paul has to say concerning the use of spiritual gifts and the issue of gender.

We saw in our discussion of 1 Cor. 12 that Paul spoke of both genders – male and female – receive spiritual gifts from the Holy Spirit. We saw that these spiritual gifts included gifts of utterance – the word of wisdom, the word of knowledge, and prophesy.

We concluded the act of silencing of women in the church is in direct conflict with the intended purposes of the Holy Spirit who gifts women to prophesy and to speak.

Paul also instructed ALL to earnestly desire the greater spiritual gifts. These greater gifts listed in 1 Cor. 12:28-31 include apostles, prophets, and teachers.

We found no gender limitations given by Paul as he instructed ALL to earnestly seek the greater spiritual gifts.

Paul then turns his discourse to show a still more excellent way, which is found in 1 Cor. 13. Paul instructs the church in the excellent way of love. The point of his instruction is that the use of spiritual gifts is to be filled with love – with out love they are empty.

Paul turns the discourse once again as he instructs the church to “pursue love, yet, desire earnestly spiritual gifts” in 1 Cor. 14:1.

Paul continues in 1 Corinthians 14 to use gender neutral words as he instructs the church to “earnestly desire spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.”

1 Corinthians 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.

The KJV erroneously adds the gender specific word “he” where it does not exist in the original text. Paul uses gender neutral words as he continues his discourse on spiritual gifts.

1Cor 14:2-5 (NASB) For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. 4 One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. 5 Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word of “one” in verse 2. The Greek word translated as “men” in verse 2 is a gender neutral word meaning “human kind”. The gender specific word of “his” and “he” in verse 2 are added words, they do not exist in the original text.

Paul says in verse 2 that anyone (man or woman) who speaks in a tongue does not speak to human kind, but to God; for no one understands, but in spirit speak mysteries.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word of “one” in verse 3. Again the Greek word translated as “men” in verse 3 is a gender neutral word meaning “human kind”.

Paul says in verse 3 that anyone (man or women) who prophesies speaks to human kind for edification and exhortation and consolation.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word of “one” in verse 4. The Greek word translated as “himself” is a gender neutral word meaning “himself or herself”.

Paul says in verse 4 that anyone (man of women) who speaks in a tongue edifies “himself or herself”: but anyone who prophesies edifies the church.

Paul is clearly says in verse 4 women prophesy – SPEAK – in the church. Verse 4 nullifies all doctrines of men which state that “women do prophesy, they just do so outside the church.” Paul says in verse 4 anyone (male or female) who prophesies edifies the church. To edify the church you certainly must be in the midst of the church.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word of “one” in verse 5. The gender specific “he” has erroneously been added and does not exist in the original text.

Paul says in verse 5 that he wishes that ALL spoke in tongues, but more that you (gender neutral) would prophesy; and greater is anyone who prophesies than anyone who speaks in tongues, unless interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.

Again we see clearly in verse 5 women prophesying – speaking – in the church. Verse 4 and verse 5 nullify all doctrines of men which state that “women do prophesy, they just do so outside the church.” To edify the church you certainly must be in the midst of the church.

1Cor 14:9-11 So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 10 There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning. 11 If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender words of “one” and “you” in verses 9-11.

1Cor 14:12 So also you, since you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek to abound for the edification of the church.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word “you” in verse 12.

Paul says since you (male or female) are zealous of spiritual, seek to abound for the edification of the church.

Women, as well as men, are instructed by Paul to seek to abound in the spiritual gift of prophesying because it brings edification to the church.

We again see Paul to instruct women to prophesy – speak- in the church.

1Cor 14:13 Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender word of “one” in verse 13. The gender specific “he” has erroneously been added and does not exist in the original text.

Paul says let one (man or woman) who speaks in a tongue pray may interpret.

1Cor 14:19 however, in the church I desire to speak five words with my mind so that I may instruct others also, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue.

This verse verifies the fact that Paul’s instruction on prophesying and speaking in tongues is for IN the church. Paul does not limit women to prophesying “outside” the church.

1Co 14:21 In the Law it is written, “BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME,” says the Lord.

The gender specific word of “men” has erroneously been added and does not exist in the original text. The original text says, “By strange tongues ….”

1Cor 14:23-24 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? 24 But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all;

Verse 23 again verifies that Paul’s instruction on prophesying and speaking in tongues is for IN the church. Paul does not limit women to prophesying “outside” the church.

Paul gives instruction in verses 23-24 concerning the church being assembled together and ALL speaking in tongues or ALL speaking in prophesy.

1Co 14:26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

Verse 26 again verifies that Paul’s instruction on prophesying and speaking in tongues is for IN the church. Paul does not limit women to prophesying “outside” the church.

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender words of “one” and “you” in verse 26.

Paul says in verse 26 that when you (men and women) assemble and each one (male or female) has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation, let all things be done for edification.

Paul says that women as well as men when the church is assembled may TEACH, may speak a revelation, may speak in a tongue, and may speak an interpretation of a tongue. Paul says women as well as men may speak in edification in the church.

In verses 27-31 Paul gives instructions for the men and women who speak in tongues or prophesy in the church.

1Co 14:27-31 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted;

The NASB correctly uses the neutral gender words of “anyone” and “one” in verse 26. The gender specific word of “he” has erroneously been added and does not exist in the original text. The Greek word translated as “himself” is a gender neutral word meaning “himself or herself”.

Paul in giving his instructions for tongues or prophesy in the church does not limit or exclude either gender. He gives instructions for both men and women who speak in tongue and prophesy in the church.

Paul concludes this discourse in verse 33 by saying “God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.”

This brings us to the problematic verse 34 which has often been used to silence the very women Paul had just given full liberty to prophesy and speak in tongues in the church. It is totally out of the stated context of 1 Cor. 14 to interpret verse 34 as silencing women.

1Co 14:34-35 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

One doctrinal interpretation is that Paul changed the discourse in verse 34 to give instruction to the church concerning confusion that was taking place. This interpretation keeps verse 34 in the context of the confusion Paul was addressing in verses 23-33.

Thus in verse 34 Paul now turns his attention to address another problem of confusion in the church, which was wives asking many questions during the assembly. Paul instructs the wives to keep quiet – or hold their questions – during the time of assembly and ask their husbands when they get home.

The above doctrinal interpretation is a valid understanding but not how I personally see the interpretation of verse 34.

I believe Paul in verse 34 turns from his discourse on spiritual gifts to address a statement made to him in a letter by the Corinthians. I believe in verses 34-35 Paul is a quote taken from the Corinthian letter.

In1Corinthians 7:1 we find the context of 1 Corinthians 7 – 1 Corinthians 15. Paul is answering question asked of him by the Corinthian church in a letter.

1Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things about which you wrote,

I have several reasons why I believe verses 34-35 are a quote.

1) Paul has just written much concerning women speaking in tongues and prophesying in the church. Why would he now silence the very ones he just gave instruction to? I do not believe Paul would speak a command to silence the women he just instructed in how to speak in the church.

2) In 1 Cor.15:12,35 we also find Paul quoting what “some say” and in verse 36 uses the same strong language of correction as used in 1 Corinthians 14: 36.

3) This statement taken from verse 35 “for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says” could not originate from Paul.

Paul as a Pharisee knew the law inside and out and absolutely knew that there was no law which silenced women. I believe this statement could not have or originated from Paul. I believe Paul was quoting a statement made to him by the Corinthian church.

In verse 36 Paul begins his answer to the Corinthian church.

1Co 14:36 (KJV) What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

1Co 14:36 (NASB) Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only?

Paul begins verse 36 with a word which has been defined by Greek scholars as an “emotional rebuttal and expletive of disassociation. This word’s closest English equivalent is “What?”, “Nonsense!” or “No Way!”

Paul used this small (and often not translated) emotional rebuttal and expletive of disassociation twice in verse 36 (the KJV correctly translates it use just one of these times). This Greek word is used 49 times by Paul in the book of 1 Corinthians. It is often not translated because it carries more of an emotional meaning than intellectual.

When verse 36 is translated with its two uses of this Greek word of emotional rebuttal and expletive of disassociation it reads as follows, “What”, “Nonsense”, “No way” “Was it from you that the Word of God went forth?” “Nonsense”, “No Way” “Has it come to you only?”

Paul’s reply to the statement quoted in verse 34-35 and the silencing of women was “What”, Nonsense”, “No way”.

He continues his correction by saying, “Was it from you that the Word of God went forth?” and replies again by saying “What”, Nonsense”, “No way”.

Paul continued his correction by saying, “Or has it come to you only?”

We find that Paul was NOT silencing women in the church – he instead spoke a strong rebuttal to those who would!!!

Paul continued his rebuttal of verse 34-35 in verse 37 -38 by saying, “If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.”

Paul had just written extensively on men and women operating in spiritual gifts in the church. In verse 37 Paul instructs the Corinthian church to recognize what he had written concerning women freely speaking in tongues and prophesying in the church as the Lord’s commandment. If anyone would not recognize this freedom of women to speak, they would not be recognized.

Paul in verse 38 – 39 summarizes and reiterates the points of his teaching – desire earnestly to prophesy, do not forbid to speak in tongues, and to let all things be done properly and in an orderly manner.

If Paul was truly silencing women in verses 34-35 why would his summarization say “do not forbid to speak in tongues?” I hear Paul stating firmly reiterating in his summarization that all – men and women – were not to be forbidden to speak in tongues in the church.

Paul DID NOT silence women in the church – instead he strongly affirmed women role in the church.

01.07.09

Spiritual Gifts

Posted in Women in Ministry at 4:50 pm by Administrator

Let’s also consider spiritual gifts, which are given by the Holy Spirit’s discretion and not according to the will of man.

1Cor 12:6-11 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all 7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 8 For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.

There is no gender differentiation in receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit. God works in all and gives the manifestation of the Spirit to EACH ONE for the common good.

Notice that several of the spiritual gifts are gifts of SPEAKING and not of silence. The Holy Spirit manifests His gifts in both men and women causing them to speak in the word of wisdom, the word of knowledge, and prophesy.

The Greek word “logos” is translated as “word” and means, “something spoken”.

Women as well as men are endowed with spiritual gifts of utterance. To silence women in the church is in direct conflict with the intended purposes of the Holy Spirit who has gifted women to prophesy and to speak.

I find it amazing that this portion of scripture where Paul tells them he does not want them to be ignorant concerning spiritual gifts goes on to say in verses 20 – 21 that we are one body, and one part can not say “I have no need of you.”

I hear Paul addressing the situation we have in the church this day – women excluded from the service the Holy Spirit has gifted us to perform. Paul says the body needs each of us, the work to be done needs each one of us and none are to be excluded.

1Co 12:28-31 And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? 30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?
31 But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.

The Holy Spirit gives the manifestation of these gifts as He wills. We find no gender limitations given by Paul as he speaks of the giving of these gifts. Instead, we find the neutral when he commands ALL to earnestly desire the greater gifts.

Joel’s “shall come” prophesy

Posted in Women in Ministry at 4:50 pm by Administrator

Let’s continue on with one more scripture to define just what is Joel’s “shall come” prophesy.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

Again we find the neutral “you” (meaning both men and women) used of those who are God’s priesthood, God’s holy nation, and a people who are His own possession.

And yet again the neutral “you” (meaning both men and women) is used to tell who proclaim the excellencies of God.

Thus we find Joel’s “shall come” prophesy to be defined as both men and women freely proclaiming the works of God.

01.01.09

Joel’s “Shall Come” Prophesy

Posted in Women in Ministry at 6:16 pm by Administrator

Joel 2:28 “It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions.

We know that both men and women were already prophesying as prophets and prophetesses when Joel spoke this prophetic word concerning what shall come to pass in the future.

The prophesy being spoken of by Joel and received in Acts 2 must then mean something more – something that was unseen and unknown in the Old Testament. It would be an out pouring of God in a fresh and new way upon all mankind.

Joel spoke of a fresh new thing – an unseen and unknown thing – coming in the earth, thus we must not limit Joel’s spoken of prophesy to the context of the Old Testament. We must not limit Joel’s spoken of prophesy to what was already seen and known. Instead, we must search the New Testament to find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy.

Acts 2:17-18 ‘AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,’ God says, ‘THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS; 18 EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy.

“Upon all mankind” and not a very select few is the first example of God’s fresh new out pouring we find prophesied of in Joel and manifested in Acts 2. God’s Holy Spirit is poured out upon all mankind.

Joel prophesied that this outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all mankind would RESULT in the sons and daughters of those to whom Joel prophesied to prophesy – to speak under the diving inspiration of the Holy Spirit. All mankind empowered by the Holy Spirit to speak under His divine inspiration is the second example of God’s fresh new out pouring manifested in Acts 2.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in Acts 4:23-31.

After Peter and John had been released from questioning by the high priest and his court they went to the companions and reported what had taken place. They all in one accord lifted their voices in prayer (verses 23-24).

In verse 29 they prayed: “and grant Thy bond-servants may speak Thy word will all confidence.”

Acts 2:18 defines the bond-servants of God who speak His word (prophesy) as being both men and women.

In verse 31 they were ALL filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in the New Testament to be both men and women speaking His word in all confidence and boldness by the empowering of the Holy Spirit.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in Acts 8:4.

Acts 8:4 Therefore, those who had been scattered went about preaching the word.

Because of great persecution against the church both men and women were scattered, these men and women went about preaching the word.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in Acts 13:31-32.

Acts 13:31-32 and for many days He appeared to those who came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem, the very ones who are now His witnesses to the people. 32 “And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers,

We find in Matt.27:55-56, Mark 15:40-41, and Luke 23:8 & 53 that MANY women had followed Jesus from Galilee to Jerusalem. These women were His witnesses and preached (spoke under divine influence) the good news of the gospel.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in 1 Peter 1:12.

1 Peter 1:12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven–things into which angels long to look.

We find in1 Peter 1:12 a neutral “those” and not one certain gender announcing and preaching the good news of the gospel.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in the New Testament to be both men and women announcing (making known) and preaching (declaring) the gospel of Jesus Christ.

This day of both men and women announcing the good news of the gospel was also prophesied of in Psalms 68:11.

Psalms 68:11 The Lord gives the command; The women who proclaim the good tidings are a great host:

The great host of women who are this day proclaiming the good news of the gospel are fulfilling Joel’s “shall come” prophecy.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in 1 Peter 1:13, 1Peter 1:17 and 1 Cor.15:58

1 Peter 1:13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

We find in 1 Peter 1:13 the neutral “your” and not one certain gender who is to prepare their minds for action.

All – both men and women – are told by Peter to be prepared for action. The action he had just spoken of in verse 12 was announcing and preaching the gospel. Thus the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy is both men and women prepared to go forth announcing and preaching to gospel of Christ.

1 Peter 1:17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

Again we find a neutral in 1 Peter 1:17 — God impartially judges according to each “ones” work. We find not one certain gender in 1 Cor. 15:58 who is to abound in the work of the Lord but all the brethren (the whole church).

All – both men and women – are called to work. No gender is excluded; instead, both are instructed to be about the work of God’s kingdom.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy in Col 3:16.

Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

We again find a neutral “you” and not one certain gender who is to let the word of Christ richly dwell within them. Instead, we find all are to let the word of God richly dwell within them so that they may with all wisdom teach and admonish one another.

We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy to be men and women filled with all wisdom and able to teach and admonish one another. No limitations or restrictions are given because of gender. No limitations or restrictions are given of who can teach who or who could not be taught. It plainly commands all able to teach and admonish one another.

- We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophesy to be both men and women announcing and preaching the gospel.

- We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophesy to be both men and women called to action.

- We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophesy to be both men and women called to the work of God’s Kingdom.

- We find the context of Joel’s “shall come” prophecy to be men and women filled with all wisdom and able to teach and admonish one another